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@Dafta_d, @Holbornlolz and #SurvivorAbuse – What’s Going On?

[edit 28/11: since publication, the holder of the Dafta account on twitter has gone through over half a dozen incarnations:
@_dafta (this account still ‘live’…seems to be ‘shared’)
@despicabledafta (VERY short-lived, this one)@daftalolz
 (another live shared account)
@dafta_lolz

@Planet_Worth < Dafta chatted to this account a few times – was he talking to himself, or is he proving that accounts are shared by these gangsters?
Either way, this account was perma-banned at EXACTLY the same time as  and – and please note, both accounts are obsessed with @HolbornLolz; the ‘tokin’ account also showing quite a need, it seems, to chat with Sonia Poulton and Esther Baker, as were most of the accounts mentioned.
Strange, that.
All of Dafta’s accounts were bounced because he kept laying into people, using a social media platform to perpetuate some pretty nasty stuff…
…and all on an imagined premise, as further reading of this blog-page will reveal.
This blog hopes that Dafta is able to keep his latest account,@Normally_Nasty, clean and open.
This blog wishes to extend thanks to Dafta, if not for the entertainment, then surely for the thick spread of very dodgy associations he ‘illuminated’ for us all, during what can be described as a wobbly Dr Who period.
More about this in an upcoming blog, so watch this space. A
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This is something of an exposé about the actions and motives of the person operating the @Dafta_d twitter account (his name has been mentioned enough times, and it’ll serve no good doing it again, here), and it is a series of clarifications to the people that might have read my interactions with him.
In part, also, I am hoping that this blog post will prompt ‘Bob’, aka @HolbornLolz (originally @OldHolborn, many accounts ago), to clean out his stables, as regards the actions of a very small number of his ‘supporters’ – who are intent on making him look like a thug running a gang…or like a libertarian who’s part of some kind of, unofficial, out-of-control ‘voluntary association’…?
Whether this highly abusive element is operating in Holborn’s name, is hiding behind Bob’s Old Holborn persona, or whether they are being allowed to hide in his skirts, can only be clarified by any forthcoming combination of declaration, interaction, and direct reaction on Bob’s part.
Because so far, they have done Bob little but great harm.
And so far, Bob has been able to ignore the direct abuse targeting survivors, and others in the #CSA protest community, as carried out by the hit-team gathered behind the mask of Old Holborn…this little gang is, at the very least, riding his coat-tails into the mud.

In this blog-page, I want to ask how ‘Dafta’ – I’ll call him ‘D’ – a self-proclaimed ‘simple man with simple tastes’, has gone from a chap ‘trying to right a wrong’, to a man who has evidently lost the ability to know what ‘too far’ means.
Importantly, also, I’m asking why he has since chosen to add more strings to his bow by stepping out of his comfort zone and attacking individuals online, who he shares no interests with.

I write this with a heavy heart, as even writing this blog-post represents the failings of twitter, and may represent the inability inherent in the act of trying to break through the embedded suspicions that can only be found in the potentially emotional-torn psyche of a person, who has been in an online/real-world argument for over a year – with indications that the person behind said psyche has found loyalty only to be ‘true’ in less than a handful of, apparently, ‘sympathetic’ souls.
Of course…maybe I am just being soft. Maybe I’m spouting pure “moon-bat”, as it were.
You read, and you decide.

To give uncertain readers Some Background to set this all against, then I need to start at the beginning…with the horror of the 1989 Hillsborough Stadium disaster.
According to hysterical reporting by the red-top Rags, the death-toll of this terrible event was the apparent culmination of the actions of football hooligans – when in actual fact, hooliganism played no part in the disaster many had seen unfold, in real time, on the telly and the terraces. This wasn’t down to a few shouty blokes with different coloured scarves, but a series of catastrophic errors by the authorities.
To say any different is, shall we say, buying into ‘Moon-bat’ logic.
This largely-unvoiced injustice drew from an undercurrent of opinion formed around simplistic reports of the violence that had blighted the football scene, across europe, for an embarrassingly long amount of time, up to that point.
With unseemly haste, straight after the deaths at Hillsborough, the police, The Sun – and other papers – decided to try push onto the public, the reprehensible idea that all those dead people had somehow brought it on themselves, and that the behaviour and procedures of the cops on the scene had been exemplary.
Frankly, I remember it was a disgusting feeding-frenzy by the Rags, and later, a sickening and obvious show of collusion between police and press; evidencing a chilling interference by their ‘co-operation’, upon subsequent investigations.
The palpable effects of this show of establishment connivance, and the enormity of the disaster itself, drove thousands of people to find solace, comfort, and defence within support groups.
There it was – the scene was set, and the wagons were circled. Two sides…two completely different ideas of what the truth is, and what the truth should be.
The whole situation was now a powder-keg…ready to blow. Any fool could see it.

2005: Enter stage right, twitter, a chap called ‘Bob’; masquerading as the-then anonymous online construct that Bob had chosen to call ‘Old Holborn’ – now called @HolbornLolz on twitter.
At a very early stage, Bob/Holborn, already showed a patent dislike for the inhabitants of Liverpool:
bob anti scouse
Even so, the Holborn construct was soon riding high on a wave of inappropriate comments, often delivered with a distinctive, and self-excused, “dark Humour”.
His acceptance by the public was increasing, as was his profile. Apart from a few hiccups at the start, Bob and his erudite shadow-puppet, Holborn, were set for the big-time.
Any fool could see it.
You see, Bob was often right, and wasn’t comfortable with the concept of self-censorship – he was at the time anonymous, and exuded an aura of self-belief that borrowed an amount of authority from the applied philosophy of an Anonymous mask, that completed the carefully constructed online persona.
He had a biting humour that was delivered with succinct austerity…timed to perfection and tailored to suit, even if the taste was often notwithstanding.
He didn’t give a bollocks, basically.
People liked that…normal people. He was well received, even if most who found him the funniest, were the ones better able to bypass their moral compass to ‘get him’ and his close-to-the-bone chuckles.
Bob soon thought it’d suit him fine, if he followed the unfounded assertions of the Rags/cop pally-pally club, by having a more personal pop at the entire city of Liverpool…exploring the highly emotive issues surrounding the Hillsborough disaster by describing them bluntly via the boundless medium of biting, acerbic humour.
Why he did this, is unclear…but it gained him nation-wide notoriety, that he himself can only admit, he temporarily revelled in. His qualifying logic was, and remains, circular; his own words tracing the rounded path, with, ” I don’t care what people find offensive.” – leading to, “I am there to upset the apple cart.”
Such a line of logic could allow a guy to justify anything.

The thing is, what Bob found, when he knocked on the door of the city of Liverpool, and tried to carry his polarised views about Hillsborough through…well, it was just as inevitable as the scene that’d surely follow, if a non-believing theologian answers the door to a Jehovah’s Witness with a funny-bone. It was always going to be hell for all concerned.

Holborn was no fool…so what the hell was Bob thinking? Why angry-up an entire city?
Libertarian as he is, and with a flawed coil of logic at the hip, perhaps it was the naive application of an idealistic philosophy that made him alienate the whole of Liverpool?
…or was it just an eye to outrage, that guided him towards the Hillsborough debate?
Only Bob knows what prompted him to step into what can only be called an abyss…only Bob knows, and Holborn ain’t telling.
He knew the explosive elements were already set right in the middle of the argument, and he must have realised that all it needed was the right amount of regional racism, and the right mix of irreverence and perceived entitlement, to stoop down to light the fuse.
What followed, was only to be expected.

In the meantime, in 2012, investigations had come to fruition, to a large extent, that had found that the police had been negligent, and that it was wrong to blame the victims of the disaster. This was realised by the nation, when Cameron gave an apology, to that effect, in parliament.
If the fuse had been smouldering, now it was fizzing brightly.
Holborn, his shocking statements as regards Jamie Bulger and the Hillsborough disaster, his commentary as regards who or what was to blame…and his further opinions on how much an entire city of individuals is allowed to grieve…it could all only start a war that everyone could only regret.
Even at this point, the fuse could have been tamped-down – but even if Holborn wanted to pull out of this death-spiral, there was no way his more ‘helpful’ supporters were going to any more than fan the flames.

A construct based on the ideals of Libertarianism now had the option to change its man-made heart.
It would have cost nothing to exercise the right to choose – the right of any individual, and especially a right of every Libertarian.
All people have a choice, but the philosophy of libertarianism demands it as an absolute right…this, among other things, endows the practitioner with the inalienable right to change their own opinion.
It’s called ‘changing your mind’; when needed. Anyone can do it.
Is it only pride, entrenched self-belief, retribution and bloody-mindedness, that can stop someone from swerving away from a precipice?
We’ve all been there, I think.
Good or bad…was Holborn just an idealistic loner trying to stick to his ideals?
No matter; Bob chose to keep to his stance, as the fuse burned faster to the barrel.

Then Bob’s choices were reduced when his Holborn mask slipped, and his real identity was revealed to the world.
Oddly, Bob had virtually ‘outed’ himself by 2005:
bob outing himself
…although it wasn’t until 2013 that the fuse burned down, and everything blew sky-high, as several thousand people took the chance to personally give him their critique of his performance – and they tried to burn his entire world in answer.
Over the next years, lives have been changed – reputations have been shot and ruined. People have lost jobs, identities have been exposed, and court actions have been common. It has often gone completely stratospheric, and has sunk to depths where grown men found themselves actually weaponising the memory of a dead 8-year old child in their haste to give aggro to her grieving dad:
piss stained cot<<<this, sadly, is one of many.
…not cool, by the way, @Dafta_D – you and your mates should hang your heads for that one alone. How could anyone involved, allow things to get that bad?
What is it that allows an adult human being to justify this kind of behaviour?

Moving on for now: Holborn – in word and deed, he does comes across as a loner, and in essence, this is true; but at the same time, he has a cadre of people that ‘assist’ and ‘help’ him.
As a libertarian, I understand that Holborn believes in the absolutes of free speech – so it is unfair of me to expect him to give a crap about what person decides to throw their lot in with him and his views…that doesn’t preclude him from, rightfully, taking decent advantage of help offered by supporters/followers.
Pertinent to the thrust of this blog-entry, neither should it stop him investigating the motives of some of the more prominent amongst his most vocal followers…especially once he’s had information that should only invite further investigation.
Some followers/supporters are content to do what they can for Holborn – a person they see as one of the only high-profile people who seems to give a bollocks about the opinions of the everyman…but others have better talents, as it were, and choose to offer more ‘direct’ help to him.
Among these is a character called @Dafta_d. I say ‘character’, but unusually for twitter, there’s a real provable identity behind this account.
New readers may be confused by my use of the word ‘real’. To explain – for me, a real person on social media is a person whose identity is provable, and who apparently has responses you’d expect from a ‘normal’ human being.
Such a ‘real’ person is approachable, will respond to good logic, and will at least consider sound proof. Only a psychotic, obsessed, or otherwise compromised individual would be interested in perpetuating bad logic after it has been thoroughly debunked.
@Dafta_d is indeed a real person in many ways. He has perfectly normal responses in many ways also, with an identity that can be verified.
You cut him, he bleeds – basically.

The only trouble, is that D is also acting like he’s been compromised. By this, I mean, that he is acting out of character. He’s literally trolling, pretty nastily, against people that have nothing to do with him or his interests; ignoring facts, as presented to him, in order to do so.
Let me explain…D’s main interest on twitter, is to run interference for Holborn…a good example of which is here:
dafta jumping in
It shows nicely, how he’ll jump into a conversation involving Holborn, and literally troll the thread; often just interfering with the flow, but, to be fair, just as often trying to interject with a valid contribution – something he’s apt to do, when Holborn is ‘in the room’.
His other main contribution to twitter, is to cross-swords within the ‘war of attrition’ that Holborn decided to start, way back when.
As an aside, I literally cringed, when I read through a veritable flood of emails and DM’s that came through my letterbox over the last few days. I will be happy to print them if D insists in any way…but I don’t think he will.
In the interests of fairness, this fight has drawn a lot of crap to D…but somewhere between defense and attack, he has lost the ability to know the meaning of the phrase, ‘going too far’.
Believe me, when I say that D has a hell of a lot on his plate, as it were, without seeming to want acrimony from any other quarters. So why is he going out of his way, to spontaneously attack protestors that only comment about the high-level coverups of sexual abuse against children, by VIP’s…?
The fact is, to be clear, D decided to randomly go to a completely unrelated-to-him area of twitter, and then decided it’d be a good idea to have a go at debaters within the highly emotive debate of child sex abuse.
Why anyone would want to go into such a debate with anything but outrage at the facts, is quite beyond me.
But that’s what D did. He went in blind, seemingly primed with targets and references; a quiver full of pure bollocks for ammunition.
He hasn’t a clue what he’s talking about; either that, or he keeps forgetting the troll-script.
He did the same to me, for some reason only known to him.
I had no relation to him, and had no reason at all to actually want to interact with him. I have nothing to do with Holborn, and hadn’t myself ever tried to engage either of them in any kind of serious discussion.
Despite this, D has decided to interject himself into my conversations on more than one occasion.
I’d show you how he started it, but he has wiped thousands of his tweets recently….so all I can do is show you my first response to his latest account:
firstresponse
As you can see, “nice one” isn’t much to work on, when you are trying to work out what I was responding to, but at least the reader can infer that I seemed to bear D no ill will.

Here’s the second interaction with D, where for some unknown reason, he decided to attempt to provoke me to interact with him on an argumentative level…this is my response:
secondresponse edited
Here we have is something I’d typically say to someone trying to victimise me online. I have said similar things to MANY accounts over time, and they all seem to get bounced, one by one, off twitter.
To fill in the blanks of the tweet response above, I was in a conversation, and D decided to jump out of nowhere, and slag me off. It was blatant.
I had been told this chap was a troll…a fair assumption on the face of it, but, after checking the remaining hulk of his timeline that had escaped deletion, it was obvious that this person largely seemed intent on angry sub-tweeting, and direct abusive trolling.
The conversation, on August 25th, lasted for a couple of hours that day….and it continued again on the 30th:
30th d goading me to start trolling event

The event again started at D’s instigation, as you can see from the response it provoked from me.
This began a stream of accusations, from him, that lasted from 18:45 until past 22:30.
I was, in fact, being targeted and aggressively trolled, by Dafta, again.
The funny thing is, D had an awful lot to say at the time, but, as is usual, decided to delete his tweets…so all you have left to see, is my side of the conversation.
My responses speak for themselves, and most of them provide their own context.

I would ask D, ‘what gives?’..have I pissed you off in a previous life?
I don’t know. Perhaps exploring the other CSA-protesting ‘targets’, graced by D’s unexpected and unwanted presence, will give some kind of clue?
Let’s see…there’s @IanMcFadyen1966 getting stalked and vehemently abused by Mr D:
abusing mcfadyen
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his isn’t a rare event, and yes, these tweets were within minutes of each other
I challenge D to explain what kind of sickness came over him, to say such revolting dross to a man who had been abused as a child.
Even so, it happens several times, daily.
Ian has no idea why D keeps imposing onto his twitter timeline. Ask him. I did.
Go look at his timeline, and see if you can find anything that would connect him to D, apart from clear evidence of D constantly attacking him.

Then we have the abuse D keeps inextricably aiming at @DrLavertyx.
The next tweet, should you at all know Mr Laverty’s life history, is a massively strange thing to say, for a coat-tail-riding Holborn-fanatic such as Dafta…after all, since when was any of this relevant to D or Holborn?:
to lav, mentioning rose

The stream of unwarranted bile…it has been constant, especially the vicious sub-tweets.

The subject matter in the following tweet, is not particularly embarrassing for Mr Laverty…although the fact that a picture of him in a pair of purple budgie-smugglers is something of interest to D, speaks volumes on its own:
purple pantie
Again, Mr Laverty has no idea at all why D is constantly targeting and harassing him.
Ask him yourself. I did.
Please note the inclusion of @DavidRoseUK in the first tweet, by the way. Important, you see,  as Mr Rose was a blunt tool that was used to try and destroy the debate surrounding the reports of evidence of institutional child sexual abuse in Jersey. Mr Rose also once tried to discredit Mr Laverty, when he wrote a complete load of bollocks about Mr Laverty, in a newspaper, a long time ago. All CSA-related, or related to abuse in kid’s homes…all designed to make victims of abuse, and whistleblowers/investigators, look like liars.
Mr Laverty, being no-one’s victim, has helpfully ripped the article apart, paragraph by paragraph, here…and has shown, along the way, that our dear old Mr Rose had to have gotten information from bent coppers to do it.
Go on…ask Mr Rose about it. I did, and he blocked me.
Again, some things speak volumes.

Speaking of Mr Rose, should you care to check his credentials, just go to Google, and search the following terms,
David Rose Journalist Jersey Johann. Have a good look through all the entries. I did.
He is suss as they come. All there in black and white, and often by his own words and deeds.
I wouldn’t check his Wiki though – he got caught, ahem, ‘editing’ it to cast himself in a better light. Gawd alone knows if he’s done it again.
Is he doing it again, by trying now to say that he never even wrote the article about Mr Laverty?
A question for another time, and another part of this blog.

So ends the first part of this blog concerning the actions of @Dafta_d. He has attempted to victimise a good few other people within the CSA debate, and is in the process of grooming others.
More details on that when I get back to finishing this off.
Anyways…unconvinced? Then check his timeline. I did.

In covering just this small part of D’s antics, this page has become enormous – although the size reflects the amount of abuse he is involved in handing out on twitter.
In the next part of this blog, I will show how D lied through his beak, when he replied, “you are wrong” to the following question from me:
calling me wrong over haydon
…and I will answer a few other questions pointedly asked of me by @Dafta-d, as well.
I will also show who the, as yet unmentioned, Mr Haydon is, and will demonstrate fully how he is connected to Sonia Poulton, the #McCann debate, and to the attacks against many people concerned with the Hillsborough disaster.
Needless to say, Mr Haydon is also deeply and explicitly connected to the CSA debate, and has been ‘inserted’ into the People’s Tribunal.
Mr Haydon has been trying to hide behind Holborn for at least 3 years.
We think it’s time he was pulled out from behind the skirts.
At the same time, we may as well demonstrate how a couple of other accounts of twitter are overly-concerned with perpetuating the sickening act of survivor-stalking, whilst also being seen to be ‘helping’ Holborn in other arenas.

The question of whether or not Holborn is hiding these wretches in his skirts, or not?
…well, that is a question that can only have one answer.
After all, perhaps he hasn’t noticed them sneering at everyone from behind him?
Will he pull them from behind him, and therefore clean the spattered dross from the Mask and Cloak?

Your ball, Bob.

I’ll be back soon. Believe.
Meantime. let’s see how the housekeeping goes, now that the white glove has shown a track in the dust.

Ade

#Sewel, the Troublesome House of Lords, and #BBCbias.

Lord Sewel has stepped-down.
He did this after revelations he had enjoyed the company of adult sex-workers, and had taken powdered drugs up his snooter.
Does anyone give a monkey’s?
Ok…ok…I can see that a lot of you do…so let me put it another way:  Lord Sewel works for a largely-unelected government that is ‘in charge’ of millions of people’s lives. The vast majority of these people take drugs – the most harmful drugs by a very long distance, known as nicotine and alcohol, adding millions to government coffers every year. Also, the society this government is charged with is now one that has accepted the term ‘sex worker’ over more colourful and judgemental vernacular descriptions – a term that in normal use denotes an adult who decides to make a living through literally selling sex. I avoid the term ‘prostitute’ in particular, as I think that particular term is far more applicable to the average politician, than it is to the average person likely to want to incorporate sex into their financial dynamic.
Putting the role of the sex-worker into perspective for a second, I need to counterpoint by saying that media and advertising does exactly the same thing – but does it in daylight without asking us if it’s ok for our kids to see it.
At least your average sex-worker is likely to use a condom, put it that way.
So, in light of the fact that most of the population is taking some form of drug or another, and considering that the majority of people are exposed to someone or other selling sex…well, so what if some slightly sad old bloke decides to see a couple of paid-women, and tokes a few lines of coke?
And what?
Where I come from, old geezers that do that tend to get a pat on the bleedin’ back, and asked if they got any spare viagra.
Your only objection, even as the most outraged Sun reader, could only be that the drugs he took were untaxed.

So, what’s the point?
Let’s break this crap down and see what gives…keep looking until we get something striking:
*The Sun is owned by Murdoch, who owns SKY…keep that in mind.
*The Sun, and similar rags, gleefully pull this stunt every few months.
**such ‘stings’ almost always involve the paper paying for drugs and/or sex workers
**such papers tend to be the ones that have some kind of page 3, and promotions for cheap booze
So, we can dismiss The Sun as, itself, a hypocritical rag with a total Murdoch agenda; one that will prostitute itself to make a poor point. It’s going down the tubes, if only under the weight of its own ironical output.
Nothing too unusual to see here.

*The House Of Lords is an institution that is pretty-much hated by almost every government in succession.
*It is peppered with peers from all sides of the political fence, in an effort to sway it with sheer force of numbers.
*It helps to block and/or force rethinks on rushed legislation.
*BUT…its members can’t be whipped into party-line effectively – what they gonna do? Take the peerages off them?
So, we have a hit. Here is a point at which we can start peeling this Sewel story back a little. Here, also, we can get a better look at the schizophrenic nature of our government…I think we can liken parliament’s relationship with the house of lords, with the way it seems to conduct itself with the BBC.
Parliament hates both…with particular venom withheld just for the Beeb. Again and again, government has tried to control the Beeb…and I am sure it has peppered the service with its own people up and down management and riddling through the editorial. The government had full control of the Beeb during WWII, and apparently lost most of it post-war.
I’m pretty sure this is something regretted by our glorious leaders.

The BBC…on the whole, a thorn in the side of government. It is obviously heavily biased in many ways, especially the news output…but we can’t dismiss all the crap the BBC has uncovered about how we are governed. We just can’t.
It is obvious to a blind-man, that the BBC has been pulled so far this way and that, that is is now showing it’s strings.
We need to look at the facts, and sum up where I’ve took us so far:
*The Sun is a rag.
*The alternative to the Beeb is a miasma of ‘independent’ tv companies – amongst them, SKY snapping at the heels, and Channel 5 actively participating in the war on the poor with crap like Benefits Street.
*The house of lords is a pain in the ass of parliament.
*The Beeb is a pain in the ass of government.
**Both are ‘dealt with’ in the same way, with the complicity between government, and large parts of the press…such reportings often being pretty hysterical and blanketing in nature.
***Both are pecked at and undermined in the media.
***Both have been hobbled by legislation from government – which in the case of the house of lords, has seen the ability of the House to effectively oppose parliament reduced, and with the Beeb, has created loopholes that are directly affecting revenues (non-payment of License Fee due to not watching ‘live’ tv, anyone?).
***Both are peppered with ‘government people’…making their output often torn by dual bias.

Now…I’m no expert on the machinations of government, but I know what I am seeing, when I see a bloke getting pilloried for being relatively ‘normal’ by the dual-standards of a vast amount of the government, and normal by the habits and conception of the larger populace.
When I see massive amounts of media-time dedicated to it, when it at the same time goes unreported that people are suiciding themselves out of getting benefits from the dole-line…when I don’t see a WORD about kids getting tortured at Kincora in the Main Stream News…
…well, as you probably know by now, it makes my flipping blood BOIL.
Sewel is a tool. He may have been a git in real life, or bent in his job…I just don’t know, and haven’t needed to look.
The fact is, he was set up, and it has not only caused a Distraction, but it has also helped chip away at the only thing standing between the Tory bastards and the total power they need to make decisive movements in their war on the poor. That’s just a for-instance; the Tory isn’t going to stop until everything we have paid for over generations with blood sweat and tears has been privatised and sold back to us…they won’t stop until they’re allowed to use dogs to chase smaller dogs into the ground again. They Won’t Stop until we get our act together and vote them out…and the whole merry-go-round of successive same-shade governments will have it carry on – if only in a lighter shade of Conservative blue.
The killing the Beeb and the house of lords is something we will see, if we don’t wake up and see how we’re being manipulated. It’s happening with the NHS as we speak.

I said it before and I will say it again…stay sharp and stay focused.
Read what I said, and look at the facts for yourselves.
Join protest groups, and write your MP.

Just do summat.

A

Who Is Supported By>@HolbornLolz & Henchmen<Hated By (nearly) ALL of Liverpool?

This was originally written as an addendum to an earlier article, here,
and is continued in another page on this blog, here


 

edit 25/11:
since publication of [earlier article], Esther has since embarked on a one-person crusade to ‘expose’ her trolls/her more vociferous detractors, rather than acknowledge this blog, or answer a few simple questions posed to her in this blog and in social media – namely:

“what interest does @Dafta_d/Haydon (Dafta now banned, and reemerged from the ooze as @Dafta_lolz  Normally_Nasty @WeekendWaddle @Friday_Madness  @x_peregrine_x – and many more..the latest being @TantrumTuesday ..)
.. have in Esther Baker?”

Since publication, also, the young lady in question has managed to once again expose her complete ignorance of important and ongoing matters, as regards the twitter debate surrounding the exposure of child abuse coverups, especially via VIP’s –  an ignorance that can only be due to her apparent lack of ability to make even the lightest of enquiries.
The fact is, and apparently unknown to Esther, the debate was toxic not too long ago, thanks to the interference of the Poulton-named#TeamOutlaw… an interference now perpetuated by Esther’s new bezzie supporters,
dafta buttering esther up
who are continuing to groom her.
Yet Esther doesn’t seem to realise that Dafta, et al, have taken the baton from the ousted #TeamOutlaw, and have decided to abuse the same #TeamOutlaw-chosen ‘targets’ in the same way, using the same tactics, thereby AGAIN completely disrupting the entire #CSA debate. Whether she is groomed with her knowledge or not..? Well, this remains to be seen, but initial indications are not good.


It gets worse, further ignorance is expressed by this young lady, when it is seen that she has been asking questions that she no longer has the right to ask:

esther asking about liverpool
It seems that Esther has no clue as to who her new bezzies, dafta/Haydon ARE, and what/who they represent.

For any uninformed readers, dafta/Haydon are CLOSE and confirmed supporters of @Holbornlolz (Old Holborn)…the man who is hated throughout Liverpool, no less.

Dafta/Haydon are even on record as having ‘helped’ Holborn to infiltrate survivor groups in order to perpetuate further disgusting abuses against an entire city of still-grieving people…although I leave that snippet for Esther herself to investigate further – should she decide to actually start investigating the issues surrounding a debate she has so firmly, and blindly, landed herself and her opinions in.

She has no apparent idea of the consequences of her actions, although this blog fears that, going by events to date, Esther simply doesn’t care.

This blog asserts that her ignorance is apt to facilitate dafta/Haydon’s efforts to inject themselves, the worst imaginable element of next-level disruptors, into the heartbreaking, and depthless dimensions of the twitter debate surrounding coverups of abuses to kids in care, and abuses to kids at the hands of VIP’s…such injection, as it is, coming at the same time as the last lot of inhuman disruptors is starting to trickle through the courts after years of effort to dislodge them.
At this point, the irony is making even me buckle.

The only hope, is that a level-headed person may be able to confront Esther with some background on the debate she is currently destabilising with her lack of knowledge, if not with her complicity.

This blog would like to let her know that the #CSA debate on twitter does NOT need to be in the same tatters she has already dressed her own, widely-known, case in.

The truth and consequences of her actions will be visited on the #csa debate, very soon, if, loose cannon that she is, she is continued to be allowed to swing around the deck, without correction, for much longer.
Someone Tell Esther, before the Trollmance goes any further..

..before the diabolical powers she is dabbling with are let loose among a debate that already draws accusations of ‘witch-hunt’ in the Daily Mail.

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Why are Critics of Reflectionsuk3 Being Targeted by #GangStalkers?

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I am taking time out from another piece to put this up as a lengthy update to this page here where I pointed out that Ms Baker had seen fit to contribute to a hackneyed attempt to set me up as some kind of stalker; her doing so with the the complicity of a hateblog created by James Haydon, @9outof10catz, the foot-soldier of the infamous online abuser @HolbornLolz, no less.

Since the last update on that blogpage, things have come on a pace.
In that time, I have had no respite at all from the stalking and vicious attacks perpetrated against me since I dared to question Esther.
A minor example here:

no job rip off benefits claims brother died

which covers only some of the intimidation and stalking.

Another example here:

fucking retard from duck

after I dared to ask a question in public.

Or here:

pussy whose wife left to protect her kid

where I was ‘punished’ when I dared to stand up and talk back.
In my response, I am addressing the facade and constructed account of the stalker..chillingly, the stalker is addressing me personally.
This account, and the rest of the team, have over the last month, revealed the names of both of my brothers, and have shown my old address, my current address, my name, my face picture, and part of my phone number.
The same intended intimidation has been unleashed on EVERY other vocal critic of @Reflectionsuk3 (the charity that isn’t a charity, yet has a DONATE tab on the web-page before the site is even finished..?) and the Lantern project.
Why?
Please note, the comments above are all from one account, and that account was just one incarnation of Mr Duckworth, who will be spoken of with more clarity further down this page.
Every single account has targeted a small number of people, as outlined below.

And the points raised during these intimidatory communications targeted at me?
Almost all completely wrong, and all intended to oppress me by making me stop talking online.
Why?

It has been a clear month since I wrote the blogpage that has drawn all this unwanted attention to me, and yet I have still had no explanation about the clear evidence of Ms Baker being in cahoots with possibly the nastiest ‘trolls’ on social media.

Jenny Tomlin – locked her account and refused to respond.
@ExaroNews – this outlet has descended to intermittent squawking about the veracity of the reporting of other news outlets, it seems.
So no news there.
But Esther Baker  – she has become even more militant towards this blogger and other critics.
Her latest efforts to busy herself whilst ignoring this blog have included the heavy publicity she has afforded yet another hate-blog, along with the constant communication she has with the accounts that are arrayed against critics of her, Lantern Project, or Reflectionsuk3
I won’t link to the hate-blog, due to security issues – specific tracking issues have been written of here..
Please read before you visit the site itself.

Coming back to the lynchpin in all this, Dafta, or Mr Duckworth, has also risen to prominence, with over two dozen accounts come and gone since the last couple weeks alone.
Each and every single one having been taken-down by twitter, after it was found the accounts had again and again been stalking and harassing the same targeted people.
Each of his accounts had very short timelines, so it wouldn’t have taken much to read through to see the clear abuse and venom.
But..no.
Instead, time and again, Ms Baker is intent on seeking out Mr Duckworth, day after day:
esther wheres my duck

With this kind of response forthcoming, from – ahem – ‘Duckity’:
dafta buttering esther up

With obvious guffaws out of the way:

The two panels above tell it all, surely?

Anyway, why would an anti abuse campaigner of any sort even want to be associated with someone, who enjoys stalking families about their tragedy in the loss of their young child?
piss stained cot
This is NOT a ‘cuddly’ character..he is a dangerous online stalker, who is coordinating closely with other stalkers as part of a very small gang.

Ermmm, moving on..who IS this team of online abusers, abusing Esther online?
We hear about this troll team all the time (see here), but we never actually see the actual ‘trolling’ happening.
Esther has a nice blog to write it all up, so why doesn’t she qualify her words online, with a bit of proof?
If there’s a coordinated gang-stalking event being perpetuated against her, where are the tracks?
I mean, it’s as easy as stringing a few threads together on twitter..see here  for evidence of a clear coordination between accounts to attack specific individuals; these are the gang-stalkers and their methods are carefully highlighted:
@ehT_Honourables
@Cumbriacatz
..and with the account Mr Duckworth was using for that day:
@AbsoluteMadEd..; his live account at time of writing of this blogpage being:
@WeekendWaddle

Perhaps Esther is talking about this kind of targeted online abuse perpetuated by gangs??
Perhaps, she is talking about THIS behavior here, where you can see her intrinsic involvement in a targeted, coordinated, and PROVABLE account of online stalking?
I doubt it..as she might be too ashamed to admit that her behaviour online, has come to closely mirror the characteristics as portrayed by @Dafta_d..a character I have written of, here.

No, there has BEEN no ‘troll-teams’, or else she’d have had the wherewithal to log it all and at least try and tell the world about it..just as those examples above were.
Instead, as said, it seems more pertinent to her to publicise a spotty hate-blog, itself short on facts and big on smears, instead of directly confronting the ‘troll-team’ she is constantly claiming is stalking her.

And her reasons for not responding to the proof of her deep complicity with THE nastiest trolls on twitter, have so far been manifest thus:
‘the police are involved’.

The police are involved? So why the TWO hateblogs?
I’m P R E T T Y sure the cops would look dimly on such clear efforts to derail ANY ongoing police investigation..?
Even so, Esther, et al, have been talking about police involvement, as regards all the ‘trolling’ she’s getting
..yet still, there are NO reports of police talking to one of the ‘trolls’ apparently afflicting her.
WHY?

In any case, further afield, perhaps accounts like this are to blame for all the gang-stalking?
@Real_IWTT_Ringo, which seems only to ask ridiculous questions and make minor and easily refuted assertions.
Indeed, this account can’t even figure out if it is rebuking Esther, or praising her.
Nevertheless, it provides limp, easily-answered, apparently-scripted ‘questions’ that are roundly berated by Esther and her court, after being picked apart.
Is this one of the ‘team’ of ‘trolls’ that are ‘constantly’ attacking her?
Nope..or else she would have blocked this account, and other prickly-plants like it, as per instructions of cops in cases of online ‘trolling’, surely.
Instead of engaging with it?
No?
So, no team of trolls there either.

So who IS Esther talking about?
The ‘Oh My GHOD, I’m Being TROLLED’ comment is regularly used by people online, and most of them can show clear evidence..in fact, just as I have done so in this page, and just as the excellent Troll Exposure blog has, in a much more detailed way that I have.

I will leave you to this thought, who else goes on about being ‘trolled’ all the time?
A bit of detective work for you
I’ll come back to that, and then we can all compare notes.

As with everything, time will tell.

Here’s a picture for the real stalking gang highlighted on this blogpage:

WAYSH meaning - what does WAYSH stand for?

WAYSH means – Why Are You Still Here?

You are known, highlighted, and yet you have the shame and affront to carry on stalking and abusing?
Answering #WAYSH will tell us your motives.
In fact, just watching will answer everything.
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What is REAL #SurvivorAbuse/#SurvivorStalking?

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I keep seeing the terms #SurvivorAbuse and #SurvivorStalking.
I keep seeing the terms spouted by people just looking for a few more followers.
People…as regards REAL survivor abuse on twitter, I don’t mean being being asked searching questions about behaviour…I am talking about publication of addresses, face pictures, and details of your kids.
I am talking about being called a paedophile by a hateblog…about having the past of your relatives dragged-up, as if it applies to you.
I am NOT talking about self-publishing and ego-feeding crap.
There are REAL survivors out there getting REAL abuse…and the abuse doesn’t consist of being asked simple questions.

Either ‘survivor abuse’ or ‘survivor stalking’…when I talk about both, I don’t mean piffle-paffle bollocks.
Someone on twitter trawls for comments that might be about her (or, indeed, ‘him’), and then interjects herself (or, indeed, ‘himself’), and
THEN literally trolls the people they imposed themselves on…?
How can someone do that, claim they were violated, and then claim further violations when bystanders ask what the hell is going on??
Exactly how does that work?
Really, the last time I saw such front, was when Sonia Poulton got herself CAUGHT RED HANDED, logged-in whilst administering what can only be called a hate blog:
proof sp runs trollpatrol
…and yes, that little lock does mean she had exclusive access at the time the screenshot was taken.
Tut tut, my dear…have you so quickly forgotten how you, what was it…?
Oh yes…how you “Unmasked” your twitter trolls?
I still note, that the comments on that online article are still closed, and I am still waiting for her and her team to try and doorstep me.
My sides are still split from the irony overload involved, so please forgive me if I don’t go on about this too much for now, eh.
By the by…word has it, that her neutered rottweiler and now-empty wallet, Ryan, has decided to take the rap when the inevitable happens, and Sonia Poulton is properly associated with both the hateblog concerned, and the torrent of crap that keeps dogging the #CSA debate on twitter; first port of call for the cops, hopefully being the close association she has with a proven psychotic abuser and his insane ramblings.
This blog wishes him all the luck on that one. He’s gonna need it.

In another vein, but not too far removed, is another little nugget of a fact: an unpredictable and psychotically abusive person, is strangely obsessed with one particular person on’t ‘webs; obsesses, in fact, over a woman called Jan.
Le Psycho has a proven track record of incredible violations of people’s lives, both online and off, as it happens.
Why is this important?
Because this unhinged person, now flapping while waiting to face serious questions in court, is THE ONLY PERSON to take such a dislike to Jan, and is the only person, with his Poulton-named #teamOutlaw, to be abusive in any way to her.

This particular person, Jan, well no one else gives a flying crap about her, apart from acknowledging her known track record for being a thoroughly good egg, as well as being an inspiration for survivors of abuse, all around the world.
No-one wished her ill, apart from one Le Psycho…until he got totally discredited, and shown to be a serial online abuser.
THEN…
…another little group of ‘others’ I have mentioned in other pages on this blog – see here…started having a go at Jan, out of the blue and on any pretext.
For sure, they are linked to Le Psycho, through a chap called James Haydon – see here, but why they do it, is a question that time can only answer.
The abuse is clear, and has clearly continued in the same way, and against the same people.

After a little looking, you can see that Mr Haydon was/is in fact, working for Sonia as cameraman.
Haydon has several sock accounts he seems to have access to on twitter:
@JaySDUK
@ChallengeGovUK
@9outof10catz
@6harddrives
And these are just the definites, and also only the ones that are not currently suspended/banned on twitter…although he, @Holbornlolz, and @dafta_d (account banned – now called @dafta_lolz) seem to share each other’s accounts willy-nilly anyway.
Just like Jones’ Poulton-named ‘#teamOutlaw’, used to.
Funny that.

Anyway…like I was saying…time really is on my side.
I could hang my coat on this blog and give up tomorrow, and I know that eventually all will be well.
The bad guys will be rounded up, and the good guys will be vindicated…
…eventually.
But not quick enough.
In the meantime, between Jones, Poulton, Dafta (let’s call him ‘Daz), Haydon, and almost certainly with the knowledge of @Holbornlolz, they have so far between them perpetuated the exact same violations on the exact same individuals in exactly the same way…and at the same time have also between them presided over the gutting of Lantern (they were all over that one, in a feeding-frenzy), the infiltration of The People’s Tribunal (ask how many of them still completely support Le Psycho), and the near-destruction of the efforts of two alternative-news activists, not to mention the trolling of an entire city…and that’s just to my knowledge.
And that’s just over the last two years, with Jones’ going back at least three.
As for their involvement in the #McCann debate (via @CarolShooter and a couple of others, for Jones)…well, escalations of what may start out as ‘meddling’ by this clique, may well end in the death of another doorstepped person.
So, how much time do people want to give them, before the law catches up to them?
Another year? Maybe two?

No.
No more.

If it needs an ugly-looking, never-was, societal failure like ME to point it out to the greater twittersphere, that these abusive people need excising completely from all social media, then frankly, the whole #CSA debate is possibly compromised beyond salvaging, already.
Possibly. Maybe…who knows?
Will people wise-up to the never-ending yet ever-repeating pattern of these ever-present monsters?
All I know, is that my series of blog-pages is nearly finished…all the remaining entries are busy writing themselves – I just report what is already done.
When everything I can do has been done, it will be time to put the dust-covers on this blog, and my twitter account.
My bent was to see if I could get a petition to make an entire parliament sit up and take notice, and my want was to get a whole bunch of people shouting NO to #CSA coverups…well I guess all this has happened one way or another, although I still don’t understand why a whole bunch of people can’t break through a bit of troll-programming and sing protests about the coverups of #CSA all day on one well-defined tag.
Hang on…yes I do…it was because Le Psycho and his little team trolled the living shit out of it last time, as I remember.
How quickly people forget, and how quickly they forget who bloody-well told ’em in the first place.

Now? Now I just want to see the #CSA debate itself preserved.
I want the monsters to stop stalking it…to stop grooming people…I want them prevented from anymore trying to destroy people with ‘clever’ little games.
They need preventing from creating a morass (again?) like the #McCann debate…they need to be stopped from forming around their figureheads, like a nest of brambles…we have to stop them throwing false messiahs at us, and we have to warn the people before they stoop to drink from poisoned waters.

I don’t know if I or my blog, or indeed you the reader, can make any difference…but time, as I said, is on our side.

In conclusion, I had better wrap up with a little word to the less savoury watchers of this blog…
Forget your games for a minute,
Unless you are having too much fun.
Control your carnage, for just a second,
Kill your urges, drop the guns…
You can destroy me and others all you like, at your leisure
Only you will know the full truth for now, with your pleasure…
…but,
Understand this…
To keep following your path, can lead only to your ruin,
Once time has shown what it is you are doing…
Once the truth comes out of the mist.

Until you proven abusers get a clue, and step off where you stepped in, you are tied to being bastards in one form or another.
A troll’s gotta troll, or so they say.
That is your weakness, and that is why you have to scurry around and hide behind such school-yard logic as whispering DM’s… the kind of direct messages that always starts with ‘can you follow me, so we can talk?’, and ends with yet another round of the same abusive crap from the same abusive people…with the aid of the same ignorant, yet well-meaning, people.
You just can’t help yourselves, can you?


 

Right…see y’all later, good people.
Remember, I always advise you to forget everything I have said, and get on with whatever it is you are protesting about.
Just keep spreading the word about your cause…don’t get caught up in personalities.
And the biggest one…ALWAYS look/ask for proof – do your homework thoroughly, and read-up to reveal whatever truth it is you are seeking.
Go and see what people say for yourself, before being part of a clique and a gang, and before you find yourself being used like a proper spanner.

Time Is On My Side ~ The Rolling Stones

Here it is for today…my Tuesday Afternoon Choon…
Time Is On My Side ~ The Rolling Stones.

I’ve not had time to do a ‘choon for a little while, and this one is either very late from last week, or very early for this week:

I love this song…so mellow.
I’ve been rocked by this baby a few times, while I rocked my own loves.
Over the years, it’s always reminded me of the abiding bond that love can forge between people…parents and child, loved and lover.
Time never makes a dent in a true abiding love…love and gold; the only time I can compare the two.

These days, I tend to have it playing along as my little ear-worm for a much different reason.
These days, this song gives me a another type of a little boost every time I hear it, because it helps me relate healthily with the issues I keep finding on twitter, as related to targeted survivor abuse.
It makes me realise that one day, the truth will be made bare, and the abusers that stalk twitter will not only be caught, but will also never dare to rear their cowardly heads again.
So I allow myself a smile once in awhile; a reflection of a little glow that fans a little higher, as I realise that this hell, as created by the dregs of humanity, is going to end one day.
The perpetrators will be dragged off their computers and confronted with charges to be answered to in court.
It’s just a question of time.

“Time, is on my side…”

Either ‘survivor abuse’ or ‘survivor stalking’…when I talk about both, I don’t mean piffle-paffle bollocks.
Someone on twitter trawls for comments that might be about her (or, indeed, ‘him’), and then interjects herself (or, indeed, ‘himself’), and
THEN literally trolls the people they imposed themselves on…?
How can someone do that, claim they were violated, and then claim further violations when bystanders ask what the hell is going on??
Exactly how does that work?
Really, the last time I saw such front, was when Sonia Poulton got herself CAUGHT RED HANDED, logged-in whilst administering what can only be called a hate blog:
proof sp runs trollpatrol
…and yes, that little lock does mean she had exclusive access at the time the screenshot was taken.
Tut tut, my dear…have you so quickly forgotten how you, what was it…?
Oh yes…how you “Unmasked” your twitter trolls?
I still note, that the comments on that online article are still closed, and I am still waiting for her and her team to try and doorstep me.
My sides are still split from the irony overload involved, so please forgive me if I don’t go on about this too much for now, eh.
By the by…word has it, that her neutered rottweiler and now-empty wallet, Ryan, has decided to take the rap when the inevitable happens, and Sonia Poulton is properly associated with both the hateblog concerned, and the torrent of crap that keeps dogging the #CSA debate on twitter; first port of call for the cops, hopefully being the close association she has with a proven psychotic abuser and his insane ramblings.
This blog wishes him all the luck on that one. He’s gonna need it.

“Time, time, time, is on my side
     yes it is…”

In another vein, but not too far removed, is another little nugget of a fact: an unpredictable and psychotically abusive person, is strangely obsessed with one particular person on’t ‘webs; obsesses, in fact, over a woman called Jan.
Le Psycho has a proven track record of incredible violations of people’s lives, both online and off, as it happens.
Why is this important?
Because this unhinged person, now flapping while waiting to face serious questions in court, is THE ONLY PERSON to take such a dislike to Jan, and is the only person, with his Poulton-named #teamOutlaw, to be abusive in any way to her.

This particular person, Jan, well no one else gives a flying crap about her, apart from acknowledging her known track record for being a thoroughly good egg, as well as being an inspiration for survivors of abuse, all around the world.
No-one wished her ill, apart from one Le Psycho…until he got totally discredited, and shown to be a serial online abuser.
THEN…
…another little group of ‘others’ I have mentioned in other pages on this blog – see here…started having a go at Jan, out of the blue and on any pretext.
For sure, they are linked to Le Psycho, through a chap called James Haydon – see here, but why they do it, is a question that time can only answer.
The abuse is clear, and has clearly continued in the same way, and against the same people.

After a little looking, you can see that Mr Haydon was/is in fact, working for Sonia as cameraman.
Haydon has several sock accounts he seems to have access to on twitter:
@JaySDUK
@ChallengeGovUK
@9outof10catz
@6harddrives
And these are just the definites, and also only the ones that are not currently suspended/banned on twitter…although he, @Holbornlolz, and @dafta_d (account banned – now called @dafta_lolz) seem to share each other’s accounts willy-nilly anyway.
Just like Jones’ Poulton-named ‘#teamOutlaw’, used to.
Funny that.

“You’re searching for good times,
But just wait and see….”

Anyway…like I was saying…time really is on my side.
I could hang my coat on this blog and give up tomorrow, and I know that eventually all will be well.
The bad guys will be rounded up, and the good guys will be vindicated…
…eventually.
But not quick enough.
In the meantime, between Jones, Poulton, Dafta (let’s call him ‘Daz), Haydon, and almost certainly with the knowledge of @Holbornlolz, they have so far between them perpetuated the exact same violations on the exact same individuals in exactly the same way…and at the same time have also between them presided over the gutting of Lantern (they were all over that one, in a feeding-frenzy), the infiltration of The People’s Tribunal (ask how many of them still completely support Le Psycho), and the near-destruction of the efforts of two alternative-news activists, not to mention the trolling of an entire city…and that’s just to my knowledge.
And that’s just over the last two years, with Jones’ going back at least three.
As for their involvement in the #McCann debate (via @CarolShooter and a couple of others, for Jones)…well, escalations of what may start out as ‘meddling’ by this clique, may well end in the death of another doorstepped person.
So, how much time do people want to give them, before the law catches up to them?
Another year? Maybe two?

No.
No more.

If it needs an ugly-looking, never-was, societal failure like ME to point it out to the greater twittersphere, that these abusive people need excising completely from all social media, then frankly, the whole #CSA debate is possibly compromised beyond salvaging, already.
Possibly. Maybe…who knows?
Will people wise-up to the never-ending yet ever-repeating pattern of these ever-present monsters?
All I know, is that my series of blog-pages is nearly finished…all the remaining entries are busy writing themselves – I just report what is already done.
When everything I can do has been done, it will be time to put the dust-covers on this blog, and my twitter account.
My bent was to see if I could get a petition to make an entire parliament sit up and take notice, and my want was to get a whole bunch of people shouting NO to #CSA coverups…well I guess all this has happened one way or another, although I still don’t understand why a whole bunch of people can’t break through a bit of troll-programming and sing protests about the coverups of #CSA all day on one well-defined tag.
Hang on…yes I do…it was because Le Psycho and his little team trolled the living shit out of it last time, as I remember.
How quickly people forget, and how quickly they forget who bloody-well told ’em in the first place.

Now? Now I just want to see the #CSA debate itself preserved.
I want the monsters to stop stalking it…to stop grooming people…I want them prevented from anymore trying to destroy people with ‘clever’ little games.
They need preventing from creating a morass (again?) like the #McCann debate…they need to be stopped from forming around their figureheads, like a nest of brambles…we have to stop them throwing false messiahs at us, and we have to warn the people before they stoop to drink from poisoned waters.

I don’t know if I or my blog, or indeed you the reader, can make any difference…but time, as I said, is on our side.

In conclusion, I had better wrap up with a little word to the less savoury watchers of this blog…
Forget your games for a minute,
Unless you are having too much fun.
Control your carnage, for just a second,
Kill your urges, drop the guns…
You can destroy me and others all you like, at your leisure
Only you will know the full truth for now, with your pleasure…
…but,
Understand this…
To keep following your path, can lead only to your ruin,
Once time has shown what it is you are doing…
Once the truth comes out of the mist.

Until you proven abusers get a clue, and step off where you stepped in, you are tied to being bastards in one form or another.
A troll’s gotta troll, or so they say.
That is your weakness, and that is why you have to scurry around and hide behind such school-yard logic as whispering DM’s… the kind of direct messages that always starts with ‘can you follow me, so we can talk?’, and ends with yet another round of the same abusive crap from the same abusive people…with the aid of the same ignorant, yet well-meaning, people.
You just can’t help yourselves, can you?

“You’re searching for good times,
       but just wait and see,
you’ll come running back…”


 

Right…see y’all later, good people.
Remember, I always advise you to forget everything I have said, and get on with whatever it is you are protesting about.
Just keep spreading the word about your cause…don’t get caught up in personalities.
And the biggest one…ALWAYS look/ask for proof – do your homework thoroughly, and read-up to reveal whatever truth it is you are seeking.
Go and see what people say for yourself, before being part of a clique and a gang, and before you find yourself being used like a proper spanner.

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2 MONTHS – No Answer>How @Esther9982 Got Help From Trolls To Set People Up

esther baker i wasnt asking you

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A strange thing has happened…it seems trolls attached to the #VIPCSA debate have developed some intelligence!!
It had to happen eventually; just as a universe full of chimps will eventually come up with the complete works of Shakespeare.
As Douglas Adams once pointed out, the thing with chimps, universes and sonnets, is that there’s always the matter of where to put all the generated waste…in the case of said trolls, for bad or for worse, such waste is littered all over twitter for anyone to womble around with.
Most of it is incomprehensible even to the trolls that spout it…but a clear path is still there to show you to a veritable nest of ’em, should you take the want to peg up your nose and follow the muck.
Just be careful where you step.
The trail leads, fresh, from the first lot of human-fails that attacked, and attempted to destroy, dozens of people whose only concern was highlighting failures of successive governments to properly address coverups, as regards abuses to children…well these abysmal failures are, as we speak, furiously self-censoring themselves as they scatter across the interwebs; with the figurehead now facing serious questions in court.
They were pretty thick, with their tenacious ability to hang on like frothing pit-bulls being both their only ‘attribute’ – the same ‘quality’, as it happens, that has eventually brought them down.
Highly focused, very apt to deeply offensive abuse, highly organised, but, I’m happy to say, with the collective intelligence of a whole bunch of clowns sent off on a running-race across a minefield.
The ‘fresh’ lot, after a bumpy start, have now shown meaningful hints that they may have developed the ability to walk without scraping their knuckles on the floor.

Come with me, and I will show you what the little blighters have been up to this time…
Some little while ago, I was trying to figure out why @Dafta_d, et al, have been so highly focused as regards giving out prolonged crap to campaigners and advocates within the highly emotive debate surrounding the coverups of abuses to kids (perpetrated in kid’s homes, or by VIP’s), with the resulting blog still asking very searching and unanswered questions…such as, what the hell is a troll, normally seen abusing Hillsborough-survivors, doing flailing around in a rabid troll-fury outside his comfort-zone?
While looking into the issue, related as it is to matters already ‘in court’, as it were, I got into an exchange of DM’s, on twitter, with @Dafta_d; the conversation itself was unremarkable, so much so, that I didn’t even screenshot it at the time, as I was relying on a DM-cleaner thingy to save the text for me.
I thought that was the end of that.
Then something strange started happening…with the oddness starting with @Dafta_d referring to the DM exchange in public on twitter, and he also seemed to be deliberately misquoting me.
Here’s the original DM exchange, in full, that he was responding to…although by my recollection, @Dafta_d seems to have deleted a few comments.
Have a look, and notice it is exactly as it would look if you were screenshotting it yourself – no missing chunks, etc:

As you can see in panel four, I had expressed my usual bent, to keep DM’s private.
I have, over the last couple of days, asked @dafta_d if it would be ok to publish such an innocuous bunch of communication, and he has not seen fit to respond to me directly on the question.
Instead, he saw fit to publish these tweets:
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The gentleman’s offer I made has obviously been withdrawn.
As you can see, the DM conversation itself is almost completely unremarkable…I implored the chap on several levels, and asked for an even response.
I didn’t challenge him on some of the issues he raised…suffice to say, it was obvious that he was using our private exchange to try and forward his part within the prolonged attacks perpetrated against the people he names.
I will put an explanation for the more obscure of his typings above, in a short explanation at the bottom of this blog page.

Anyway…back to my point.
Like I was saying, this new crop of trolls are bright…although, individually, they are pretty dim, with the odd flash of inspiration – but in general thrust, as a group, these guys are different.
These guys have a plan…and they are dynamic enough to take advantage of opportunities as presented to them across several spheres.
As prime example, may I present an exemplary little hateblog that’s apparently run by @9outof10catz
The hateblog itself is patchy, with a couple of non-abusive pages to give it an air of authenticity.
In essence, the particular blog page I have linked to above, is saying that a fake twitter account was set up by me, to try and convince Esther Baker that I had somehow tried to ‘extract information’ from her.
Ok…let’s examine this a bit closer.
First, I don’t actually want any information from Esther, as I told her, here:
esther baker i wasnt asking you
As you can see, I addressed Esther Baker in a respectful way, and never once gave her reason to think I was ‘trolling her’…so when one of her more ‘ardent’ followers tweeted the following at me, I was rather surprised:
1st tweet ardent follower esther
My response reflected my shock at this young man’s accusation.
To clear the matter, I asked Esther Baker to clarify things for this hormonal youth, to which her response was to go on about a blog she hadn’t been mentioned in, which was mentioned in a conversation she hadn’t been mentioned in, either.
As a consequence of Esther’s lack of ability to grasp facts as were laid before her, and because she couldn’t apply critical thinking, the conversation with both of them became increasingly spattered with their erratic conjecture and what can only be described as contrived suspicion.
I say these things, because only a complete moron, or someone unconcerned with the truth of interactions they were actually taking personal part in, would forego spending 5 minutes to look at a couple of dozen tweets in order to dispel to ignorantly-held facts.
Needless to say, I was blocked by both of them, but that was some time after I pointed out that I will continue to respond to them just as long as they are willing to keep addressing me.

When the hateblog we’re talking about is stating that it has released personal Direct Messages, it is also stating that Esther Baker has given permission for it to be used.
Esther has not yet refuted supplying both articles and permission, to my knowledge.
Please note that, going by the screenshots she provided to the hateblogger, she wasn’t furnished with full pictorial evidence, as I have done above. This is interesting, because if someone had sent as much to me, or anyone I know, I/we would contact EVERYONE involved, and try to get to the bottom of it.
But not Esther.
Perhaps I should feel flattered that so much time and effort has gone into piling into me via deliberate distortion and/or utter (criminal?) ignorance?
You can arrive at the conclusion that a minimal amount of critical thinking and research has been applied by her, in order for her to arrive at the conclusion that partaking in a hateblog is the best course to take after considering her position, and considering her accusations as regards abuse as a child at the hands of VIP’s.

No matter, we need to push on…
This is where I knit it all together to show you what the new crop of trolls, as mentioned at the start of the blog, have done to gain a little bit of admiration from me.
They set me up…they got me set up like a flipping kipper.
That’s it.
The execution of the set-up was not bad at all…it must have seemed very believable to even people that know me.
But the fact they fluffed-it completely, says they still have some way to come…after all, they depended completely on me not having a back-up of a conversation.
They made a very poor assumption, based on their own twisted concepts of human behaviour.
They noted (or engineered?) Esther’s oblique approach to interpreting evidence, via mine and hers interactions with each other, and exploited it.
Of course, this depended entirely on them being able to control/prompt Esther to the point that she was both willing to ignore direct evidence, and was willing to be subject to future control of herself.
This depended on getting Esther to ally herself with some very dodgy accounts on twitter, that are subject to increasing scrutiny by the authorities due to horrendous stalking practices
…after all, the front-man for putting this in place was the holder of the account, @9outof10catz…a person named above as James Haydon.
This man alone is directly connected to Sonia Poulton (you remember Sonia?), AND the highly abusive, and now banned, @Dafta_d.

So that’s how it went down…they were able, one way or another, to depend on Esther playing along, and had already established in their minds that I had no way to prove what happened in the DM exchange between me an @Dafta_d.
Of course, they were wrong in one of these suppositions, which is why I am able to present the whole unadulterated conversation in this blog page.
So what of it?
Well, this blog page I’ve written in clarification would have never even have been started in the first place, if:
*@Dafta_d, et al, had realised that everyone is not like them, and that some people actually have integrity, and go to great lengths to hold to a gent’s agreement
*Esther had been more concerned with absolute facts rather than acting on imagined bollocks
*@dafta_d had bothered to say something about all this, in order to put paid to very childish gossip-games
*If @9outof10catz hadn’t been so determined to be such a shit-stirrer.

Of course, @dafta_d couldn’t be reached, as he apparently was in a heart unit…although, according to my sources, there was no-one there under his real name.
Even so, he was able to gain access to a laptop and tweet further idiocies, instead of attempting in any way to clear this up.

I had decided to forget Esther, and her odd assertions against me.
I wasn’t going to say another word about her:
i dont need to speak to esther
My view of her was that she was too fragile to handle her own truths, let alone the truths presented by several thousand followers on a social media platform.
Now I can add to my perceptions, that she is a also a dangerous proven idiot, who is willing to be used as a tool by possibly the biggest trolls on the entirety of twitter; trolls who are not only deeply associated with the notorious @holbornlolz, and the on-the-run Sonia Poulton, but are also currently engaged in specific and known instances of survivor abuse.

Of course, I have no comment as to the veracity of Esther’s wider claims, that she was abused by VIP’s as a child.
I applaud her strength in order to bring this out in the open as an adult.
I will say this – in my view, she was indeed subjected to horrors…but by who and when, only Esther can be sure.
All I know, is that she needs to get her ass off social media…no matter how much passion and support she gleans from good people on there – people who absolutely believe in her.
People that see her as a chance to smash a message through the doors of parliament…people that HAVE to believe in her.
All she can do within the swirl of social media, is help to generate what is already being called a witch-hunt, unless she curbs herself, and stops:
a) feeding trolls and her ego
b) being a troll tool
c) commenting on any ‘live’ case going through courts, that she is involved in
She will only manage to stop being at the centre of an eventual firestorm of her own creation, if she realises that everyone wants something from her, and that she needs to find a place where she speaks only for herself.
Hopeful protesters…trolls…detractors…rubber-neckers – they all want a piece of her.
In fact, one of the only people she has ever spoken to on the internet, that wants nothing from her, is me:
esther baker i dont want to talk to you
…I just want her to get off my back, and stop being used as a complete tool by people, who are seemingly intent on violating other people, on the social media she currently enjoys so much at the moment.

Thanks for reading…it was a pleasure to put the record straight.

A


Here’s a bit of an explanation of some of the utter rubbish @dafta_d was trying to extol in the conversation he had with me via DM:
– In tile 2 and 3, he admits to attacking someone called Jan, online, and tries to justify it by saying ‘they started it’ by calling a relative of his a ‘paedophile’…
In response to this, Jan has this to say:
“I have never accused him of being a paedophile, what he doesn’t show are the tweets before my tweet, people asking why someone would attack a csa survivor, my answer was, maybe he is trying to protect someone, I was sent that post by DM they said the same, that maybe that person was a brother of his, same area where he lives and brought up. Not once did I say he was a paedophile, yet he continues to say I did, and that his brothers were!”
This should give you an idea of how he will tend to bend the truth… whether it be for him to be able to look in the mirror, or to be able to be better placed to abuse further, only time will tell.



ADDITIONAL
[edit 22/11: it’s been two days since this blog was published, and neither Esther, @9outof10catz/@ChallengGovUK, or @Dafta_d (in whatever sock-puppet incarnation he has chosen, since his main account seems to have been perma-banned) have bothered to answer any of the very serious questions posed.
Indeed, my original question to Esther has very important ramifications…and has not yet been picked up by @exaronews, strangely enough.
My question asked the following:
esther baker i wasnt asking you
…because @Dafta_d/@ChallengeGovUK are now alone as just about the only people perpetuating the exact same pattern of abuse, as was Jones.
With Jones perma-banned from twitter, himself, and now under arrest for online stalking offences, he has now embarked on a clean-up in efforts to prevent more severe sentencing in the courts…with his main sponsor of his #TeamOutlaw, Sonia Poulton, now keeping her head down..a shame the same couldn’t be said of her own PROVEN pet hateblog: https://trollpatrolblog.wordpress.com/,
trollpatrol proof that poulton owns it by the way. Yes, that is Poulton, and yes, that lock sign means she has protected access to the Trollpatrol hateblog.
Only Admin can do that.
I think the vernacular term for that, is ‘flapping’, if not ‘bloody stupid’.

This blog has asked, and STILL asks, WHY are these abusive elements of twitter so determined to perpetuate the insane ramblings of a certified psychotic individual (Jones), and WHY is Esther Baker responding so favourably to both of them, despite warnings from all sides??

Interactions with @Dafta_d – here
Interactions with @ChallengeGovUK – here
Interactions with @9outof10catz – here

Indeed, why did Esther then go so far as to conspire with these two, in order to come up with the completely unvalidated and ridiculous accusation, that I have been trying to extract information from her?
If I had not managed to make a copy of the DM conversation, as outlined below, then I would not have been able to completely refute said allegation.
And where would I be now? I bet I would be receiving a lot more criticism over it, than Esther, et al, currently are.

As it is Esther, and the accounts mentioned, that are NOW in the hot-seat, it is with mounting expectation that some kind of statement of clarification as to these outstanding and troubling events is issued via any one of them.
I won’t hold my breath]

[edit 25/11: continued here]

[edit 04/12: in the period until now from the time of writing of this page, I have been faced, on twitter, with almost constant attacks from a very small number of people connected to Esther and Dafta (Dafta having recently been seen using the account @Quacked_up, now that he has run through something like a dozen highly abusive iterations of his twitter-presence).
The behaviours of stalking and violation visited on me and my name have often been quite disgusting, as a handful of people are sadly feeling entitled to use social media to say things like this:
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If this isn’t a clear threat of stalking, then I don’t know what is.
It also reflects the language and abuse I have faced online, not just from Ben here on FB, but also Ben on twitter as an equally offensive @SuppDoc.
As said, Ben is just one of a handful of people who think it is right and proper, and not at all strange, to come out of the blue, since writing of this blogpage, and attack me for absolutely no discernable reason.
More about that in a blog I am writing right now – hopefully to be published soon; suffice to say, there are now clear lines to be drawn between what were until recently seen as disparate entities, that have proven until now to be highly abusive online stalkers that like to hide in gangs.
Now, it seems, these gangs have far too many common denominators between them, to allow any other logic but ‘they’re in it together’ to prevail.]

[edit 07,12: More news, or rather, more not-news..
I have attempted to contact @DavidHencke @markwatts @exaronews AND all the available board members of @reflectionsuk3 – among whom, number @jennytomlin and @esther9982 – AND I’ve contacted reflections itself.
I asked them all about what they think of Esther using a team of proven survivor abusers to perpetuate online abuse against carefully selected targets.,and I asked them what they think about her deciding it was a good idea to contribute to a hate-blog.
To date, and conversely, I have been treated as a non-entity and a ‘2nd class citizen’ by all but Reflections, with the statement that they
can’t comment on ongoing police investigations‘.

Now, this is VERY strange, as I am asking them about a specific incident (as described in the main part of this blogpage below) that involves ONLY me, Esther, and the team of known abusers that Esther decided to make a hate-blog with.
No one representing the Police has yet contacted me..so I call bollocks on the explanation given, that there is some kind of police action being taken as regards the contents of this blog-page.
So what in the world are Reflections going on about?

Why no answer from anyone else who has been contacted about this?
I say the whole issue is being evaded by everyone I have asked above, and I call anyone who says different a liar, and/or interminably stupid.
The truth is, in fact, that the only time the police WILL be involved, is when this blogger hands all of this blog, as part of a prepared case, to the coppers – in the hopes that this whole unseemly mess is investigated thoroughly by the relevant authorities.
Perhaps the clear lines, that can be drawn between online-abuse activities of Sonia Poulton, Bob Ambridge, ‘Jimmy’ Jones, the Wilmer clan, and now, Esther Baker and her soon-to-be charity, reflections, will then be properly exposed.
While we all wait, for the answers to the questions asked by this blog, it is seen that Esther seems to refer to this blogger, and the evidence in this blogpage, as some kind of slur.
Not cool.]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Please Stand By

[Edit: Extraordinary! I managed to use a mobile phone and verified my account…I was back up and running in moments, once I had actually bothered to sort it.
It just goes to show, keep your nose clean, and be respectful, and your account stays open without real issue]

For the first time in a couple of years, twitter has asked me to verify my account…the current method, apparently, is to verify via a mobile phone.

Well, I don’t have a mobile phone, so find myself stuck in the semi-technophobe’s quandary of needing a hated piece of tech to reanimate a social media account I don’t actually even want.

Ahh…sweet bliss.
I can’t think of a better excuse to take a break.

Anyways…while I mosey along sorting this clenching issue, I am putting a blog together to show that the current rash of trolls, infesting the #CSA debate on twitter, have managed to evolve past picking their noses, and flicking it at people.
Yes…they have gotten themselves all smart [Edit].

Now they aren’t scraping their knuckles as they walk, they are becoming somewhat of a pest, I hate to admit.

Anyway…more later.

A

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